1971 DeTomaso Mangusta
Presentation
This 1971 DeTomaso Mangusta is one of 401 examples manufactured during four years of production and is one of approximately 150 built for the European market. Chassis 8MA1276 was first registered in Germany and in 1975 was sold in Sweden, where it remained until being purchased by the seller in 2014. The car subsequently underwent a refurbishment by Concept et Restauration Bonnefoy that included body repairs, a repaint in burgundy, and the installation of a 302ci aluminum-block Ford V8 as well as rebuilds of the ZF five-speed manual transaxle and running gear. Features include power-assisted disc brakes, adjustable coilover independent suspension, 15” Campagnolo alloy wheels, fixed quad headlights, black leather interior upholstery with cloth seat inserts, air conditioning, and power windows. This Mangusta is now offered in Paris, France, with a copy of its factory build sheets, invoices from the refurbishment under current ownership totaling over €200k, its removed engine, and French registration.
Development of the Mangusta arose from the remnants of an ill-fated Can-Am design project initiated under a partnership between Alejandro de Tomaso and Carroll Shelby, the latter of whom retreated from the agreement before completion of the prototype. The P70 prototype’s underpinnings were instead used as the basis for DeTomaso’s second production car, which was named after the mongoose, a small carnivorous mammal known for preying on cobras. Featuring bodywork designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro of Ghia over a backbone chassis, the Mangusta debuted at the 1966 Turin Motor Show before entering production the following year.
Originally finished in Grigio Argento, this example was stripped to bare metal and underwent bodywork before a repaint in its current shade of burgundy during work by Concept et Restauration Bonnefoy between 2022 and 2023. Brightwork was re-plated or polished during the project, and body seals were replaced. Features include fixed quad headlights, round side markers, a driver-side mirror, a mesh rear grille, quad exhaust outlets, and gullwing-style engine compartment doors, the latter of which incorporate rectangular glass panels, rear vents, quarter windows, and side louvers.
Campagnolo wheels are wrapped in staggered Pirelli Cinturato tires that were mounted in November 2025. Stopping is handled by power-assisted disc brakes that were overhauled during the refurbishment that was performed by RaceLab 1 in Magny-Cours, France, between 2019 and 2024, with work including replacement of the master cylinder and rebuilds of the calipers. The steering rack was also rebuilt during the project.
The door panels, dashboard, and other interior surfaces were re-trimmed during the refurbishment with the exception of the bucket seats, which retain black leather and cloth upholstery. Dynamat sound-insulation material was added during the project under replacement black carpeting. Additional features include a gated shifter, headrests, shoulder belts, a lockable glovebox, power windows, and air conditioning, the last of which was refreshed and updated during the refurbishment.
The Ferrero three-spoke steering wheel features a wood- and leather-trimmed rim and frames Veglia Borletti instrumentation including a 300-km/h speedometer and a tachometer with a 5,900-rpm redline. The five-digit odometer shows 44k kilometers (~27k miles), approximately 50 of which have been added since completion of the refurbishment. Auxiliary instruments include a clock and gauges monitoring oil pressure, oil temperature, amperage, coolant temperature, and fuel level.
Bids & Comments
J2W (The Seller) 7
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:34
@Clacoba I guess it will depend on discussions with Gabriel
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:27
Ok . Thank you
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:24
Hello! Yes sure !
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:21
@gabrielbodnariuc willing to discuss further?
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:21
@Norsky644 to be fair, once you account for duties + shipping, it's approaching $300K
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:20
Also +1 on the no startup/driving video. If I was paying $400K, I'd want to see the thing driving.
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:20
@AlessandroPasquake Thx. Good luck with the Bizzarini. And if not happy to discuss
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:19
This would show that the Mangusta is more appreciated in the USA than in Europe? I would say yes.
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:19
€222,000 = $246,495 (at today's exchange rate) Hopefully the high bidder and seller can make a deal.
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:18
Car has the wrong engine. Collectors want original as much as possible.
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:17
Guys was fun but I will now try to grab the bizzarini unsold at Broad Arrow. Both would have been to much for me.
Thank you to the other bidders and the seller.
Alessandro
Thank you to the other bidders and the seller.
Alessandro
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:17
Amen, wolf
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:17
That was unfortunate. Seller put a lot of time and effort into this. Very well presented and seller was very knowledgeable.
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:16
Obviously RNM.
Unfortunately, the planet seems to have gone back a century, with borders (and customs duties) once again becoming fundamental. How sad it is to see civilization regressing.
Unfortunately, the planet seems to have gone back a century, with borders (and customs duties) once again becoming fundamental. How sad it is to see civilization regressing.
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:16
still a few $$ away from the $335k at Artcurial in January.
some good videos would have helped.
some good videos would have helped.
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:14
@Ramenetor 12% more in USD
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:14
was asking a genuine question.............
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:14
finance is not his strong point...
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:14
Bid in the amount of $222,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:14
@Ramenator
+18%
+18%
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:13
Chan with the hammer
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:13
@Ramenator - ESL?
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:13
@Ramenator Do your own work. Ask google.
Chan18
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:13
Bid in the amount of $220,000
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:12
@Frige right you are. and it is in line with the car history and work done on it
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:12
I meant like what this translates to in usd
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:12
Bid in the amount of $206,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:12
Bid in the amount of $205,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:11
USD? might wanna sit this one out
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:11
Bid in the amount of $203,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:11
I think someone needs to realise what the likely reserve is on this car.
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:11
Bid in the amount of $202,000
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:11
@bigchachu @hucoh180 yes, and worth more
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:11
Price in USD?
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:10
Bid in the amount of $201,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:10
Bid in the amount of $200,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:10
This is the perfect car.
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:10
Bid in the amount of $197,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:09
Bid in the amount of $196,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:09
Well, that sped up!
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:09
Bid in the amount of $194,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:09
Bid in the amount of $193,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:09
Bid in the amount of $191,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:08
Bid in the amount of $190,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:08
Bid in the amount of $179,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:08
Bid in the amount of $178,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:08
Bid in the amount of $177,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:06
Bid in the amount of $175,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:06
Bid in the amount of $174,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:06
Bid in the amount of $173,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:06
Bid in the amount of $172,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:05
Bid in the amount of $171,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:05
Bid in the amount of $170,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:05
Bid in the amount of $169,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:04
Bid in the amount of $168,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:04
Bid in the amount of $166,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:04
Bid in the amount of $165,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:03
Bid in the amount of $163,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:03
Bid in the amount of $162,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:03
Bid in the amount of $160,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:03
Bid in the amount of $159,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:03
Bid in the amount of $158,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:02
Bid in the amount of $157,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:02
Bid in the amount of $155,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:01
Bid in the amount of $148,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:00
Bid in the amount of $145,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 17:00
Bid in the amount of $135,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:58
Bid in the amount of $130,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:44
In America, there is a similar car for 180,000 dollars, even if it is not restored, but it can be made for yourself, and painted well, and restored to yourself, taking into account the suspension and wheels, brakes and sports wiring, buying this car you will still have to check everything, you will not drive such an untested car, these are just pictures, it needs to be on the lift and study everything well, I see about 100,000 investments in this car to drive it safely.
And for a good year of time in reserve to check everything carefully, the car is painted about the car is of course beautiful, but I would prefer to build from 0
And for a good year of time in reserve to check everything carefully, the car is painted about the car is of course beautiful, but I would prefer to build from 0
hucoh180
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:40
Bid in the amount of $120,000
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:36
@Ranchero65 the original Oil pressure gauge is in place in the left side from the steering wheel. At the time of the photo shooting it was under repair
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:30
@J2W @oldxotix @TopGun32, on rear tire sizes:
as owning a Mangusta is a persistent and recurring fantasy, earlier research turned up this modern radial:
https://oldtimerreifen24.de/8-20r15-101h-tl-phoenix-schwarzblackwall-05-04412?___store=en
10 mil less width than the original, but diameter at 760 mil just about identical to the original. Should allow the suspension to be adjusted those 30 mil lower with no loss in actual ground clearance and will fill the rear arches nicely.
And it is H-rated, up to a mere 130 mph should you live in an unrestricted part of the planet.
as owning a Mangusta is a persistent and recurring fantasy, earlier research turned up this modern radial:
https://oldtimerreifen24.de/8-20r15-101h-tl-phoenix-schwarzblackwall-05-04412?___store=en
10 mil less width than the original, but diameter at 760 mil just about identical to the original. Should allow the suspension to be adjusted those 30 mil lower with no loss in actual ground clearance and will fill the rear arches nicely.
And it is H-rated, up to a mere 130 mph should you live in an unrestricted part of the planet.
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:28
stunning car! no videos?! GLWS!
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:16
Looking at the dash gauges I see two ammeters (one labeled "AMPS" with a range of C to D, the other labeled "AMPERE with a range of -50 to +50), an oil tempature gauge (TEMP. OLIO), a water temp gauge (ACQUA), fuel gauge (BENZINE) and a clock. But I don't see an oil pressure gauge. Is there an idiot light for oil pressure?
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:05
@gabrielbodnarivc @CC350 @303ok @WolfBarnato @rmessner @RZ11
gentlemen, one hour left and still a fair bit of road to cover before we get anywhere near a number that would let this Mangusta change hands. 😉
Please feel free to ask anything while there is still time
gentlemen, one hour left and still a fair bit of road to cover before we get anywhere near a number that would let this Mangusta change hands. 😉
Please feel free to ask anything while there is still time
RZ11
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 16:03
Bid in the amount of $117,000
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 14:53
Bid in the amount of $116,000
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 14:29
@fdetrana please see figures from the bench. These figures were achieved while the the engine easily runs in traffic jams during hot summer!
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 9, 2026 · 14:20
With the auction coming to a close soon, I’m happy to answer any remaining questions about the car, its history, restoration, mechanical specification, documentation, or shipping.
For US bidders, I have also received confirmation that the applicable import duty for this classic car would be 10%. West Coast Shipping explains the current treatment here:
https://www.wcshipping.com/blog/what-duties-do-i-pay-today-on-classic-car-imports
I also have a separate written confirmation from the broker regarding this car.
I hope the final bidding level will allow a new owner to welcome this Mangusta into his collection and, above all, to enjoy it as it was meant to be enjoyed — with full appreciation for its provenance and the exceptional care that went into its restoration.
Please feel free to ask anything while there is still time — I’ll do my best to respond quickly and precisely.
For US bidders, I have also received confirmation that the applicable import duty for this classic car would be 10%. West Coast Shipping explains the current treatment here:
https://www.wcshipping.com/blog/what-duties-do-i-pay-today-on-classic-car-imports
I also have a separate written confirmation from the broker regarding this car.
I hope the final bidding level will allow a new owner to welcome this Mangusta into his collection and, above all, to enjoy it as it was meant to be enjoyed — with full appreciation for its provenance and the exceptional care that went into its restoration.
Please feel free to ask anything while there is still time — I’ll do my best to respond quickly and precisely.
Oct 9, 2026 · 14:08
Seems like over estimated power output of a ford 302
CC350
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 14:06
Bid in the amount of $115,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 13:33
@FAO
Thanks for your comment, couldn't agree more. everyone is free to place a bid, still a few hours before the end of the auction!
Thanks for your comment, couldn't agree more. everyone is free to place a bid, still a few hours before the end of the auction!
Oct 9, 2026 · 13:24
Wow! I drove my silver ‘73 Pantera to work today. Coming in and checking emails this car popped up & really makes me drool🤤. GLWTS
Oct 9, 2026 · 12:57
@billyblyth ah, the old blame the AI police gambit. lol.
Oct 9, 2026 · 12:53
@boaboyoz
Hi Boyo,
Actually, I initially used a word that may have peaked the interest of the AI police. Thinking my post wouldn't pass muster, I replaced it deleting the verb beginning with "t" ending in "p" meaning to beat. I suspect they are either on guard against political words or thought I was using it for its British slang meaning as the noun meaning "fart." Either way, you get my meaning now...
Flatulently yours, Bill
GLWTA!
Hi Boyo,
Actually, I initially used a word that may have peaked the interest of the AI police. Thinking my post wouldn't pass muster, I replaced it deleting the verb beginning with "t" ending in "p" meaning to beat. I suspect they are either on guard against political words or thought I was using it for its British slang meaning as the noun meaning "fart." Either way, you get my meaning now...
Flatulently yours, Bill
GLWTA!
Oct 9, 2026 · 12:44
@GrandTourer67
I love it when people put things in perspective!
Thanks for doing that.
I hate I'll miss this as I'll be on the road most of the day.
Hopefully someone well heeled will have this treasure in his care for some years to come, and of course get an occasional super-rush having 400+ hp at his back.
Along with watching an unsuspecting passenger catch their breath after a long bit of throttle pressure, and the tires giving up their futile grip on asphalt!
I love it when people put things in perspective!
Thanks for doing that.
I hate I'll miss this as I'll be on the road most of the day.
Hopefully someone well heeled will have this treasure in his care for some years to come, and of course get an occasional super-rush having 400+ hp at his back.
Along with watching an unsuspecting passenger catch their breath after a long bit of throttle pressure, and the tires giving up their futile grip on asphalt!
303ok
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 12:40
Bid in the amount of $112,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 12:26
Oct 9, 2026 · 09:00
The only automotive example that defies the saying "never judge a book by its cover." This one is so beautiful its functional shortcomings are simply overlooked.
Oct 9, 2026 · 08:02
The Mangusta is the only automotive exception to the rule "never judge a book by its cover." Its a study in when beauty alone trumps function... GLWTA!
Its beauty
Its beauty
Oct 9, 2026 · 05:49
Alejandro de Tomaso's first model Vallelunga had
Ford Cortina engine, Mangusta and Pantera had
American V8s probably designed to hit the market,
American buyers. All three models are rear mid-
engine, rear wheel drive. Not sure if the name is
chosen Mangusta (mongoose) to catch Cobras ?
Ford Cortina engine, Mangusta and Pantera had
American V8s probably designed to hit the market,
American buyers. All three models are rear mid-
engine, rear wheel drive. Not sure if the name is
chosen Mangusta (mongoose) to catch Cobras ?
WolfBarnato
Bid
Oct 9, 2026 · 02:34
Bid in the amount of $111,000
Oct 9, 2026 · 00:35
@boaboyoz
More than all the Neighbors episodes for sure 🤢
More than all the Neighbors episodes for sure 🤢
Oct 9, 2026 · 00:26
Shape still looks right.
Oct 8, 2026 · 23:59
@oldxotix While I agree with the "respect the original design" philosophy. I would like to reference a very good Gandini interview by Davide Cironi (ok not Giugiaro) where he states that the designers would have used wider tires on their designs had they been available in the period.
Oct 8, 2026 · 19:57
In addition to Kill Bill, a Mangusta is also in Kylie Minogue's iconic Can't Get You Out Of My Head video. Which only has 793 MILLION views...
https://youtu.be/c18441Eh_WE?si=ZeUdiSo14Rvvw1pq
https://youtu.be/c18441Eh_WE?si=ZeUdiSo14Rvvw1pq
Oct 8, 2026 · 18:58
As a boy of 12 who loved to draw cars I clearly recall reading the Nov. 1969 Car & Driver article on this car; dwelling on it's unmatched beauty, which is saying something considering the vehicles available at the time.
The article, wherein it is stated, "... the de Tomaso Mangusta exists because it is the most beautiful car in the world."
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a42459762/1969-de-tomaso-mangusta-by-the-numbers/
The article, wherein it is stated, "... the de Tomaso Mangusta exists because it is the most beautiful car in the world."
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a42459762/1969-de-tomaso-mangusta-by-the-numbers/
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 8, 2026 · 11:56
@oldxotix @ninavich @TopGun32 That is a fair point, and ultimately it comes down to what the next owner wishes to prioritize.
The original specification was 185 HR15 front and 225 HR15 rear. The current Pirelli CN12s are 205/70 R15 front and 255/60 R15 rear. Their overall diameter is about 670 mm front and 689 mm rear, versus approximately 676 mm and 750 mm originally. So the front is virtually unchanged, while the current rear tyre is about 6 cm smaller in overall diameter.
This choice allowed us to retain the original 7" and 8" wheels while fitting four matching, high-quality Pirellis with excellent performance and a very appropriate vintage appearance. The suspension was then set accordingly to preserve the car’s correct stance.
The next owner will choose a taller rear tyre if he wishes to emphasize Giugiaro’s original “big & little” proportions. That is part of the appeal of this particular Mangusta: the hard work has already been done to an unusually high standard, and with the final tyre and suspension setup the new owner will adapt the car to its use and personal preference.
The original specification was 185 HR15 front and 225 HR15 rear. The current Pirelli CN12s are 205/70 R15 front and 255/60 R15 rear. Their overall diameter is about 670 mm front and 689 mm rear, versus approximately 676 mm and 750 mm originally. So the front is virtually unchanged, while the current rear tyre is about 6 cm smaller in overall diameter.
This choice allowed us to retain the original 7" and 8" wheels while fitting four matching, high-quality Pirellis with excellent performance and a very appropriate vintage appearance. The suspension was then set accordingly to preserve the car’s correct stance.
The next owner will choose a taller rear tyre if he wishes to emphasize Giugiaro’s original “big & little” proportions. That is part of the appeal of this particular Mangusta: the hard work has already been done to an unusually high standard, and with the final tyre and suspension setup the new owner will adapt the car to its use and personal preference.
Oct 8, 2026 · 05:45
@ninavich and @TopGun32, I was wondering how long it would take for the wheel/tire size subject to arise. If you look closely at photos #31 and #32 you see that, because of the different aspect ratios of the tires, the tire sidewall height is visually just about identical front and rear. Since the wheels are the same, the overall wheel/tire diameter is visually identical. Probably the most defining aspect of the Mangusta is Giugiaro’s styling of the coachwork, and a central feature of his design is the “big & little” wheel and tire concept. Larger tires in the back and smaller up front as per the racing philosophy of the day. Hanging on the wall next to my Mangusta I have a framed copy of the actual Ghia construction blueprint for the Mangusta dated 1967 with Giugiaro’s approval signature. Scaling the drawing you find that the rear wheel/tire diameter is nearly 3 inches larger than the fronts. That’s why the rear wheel arches are sized and shaped as they are. For me, it was important to respect Giugiaro’s design proportions. In order to buy tires that accomplished that I had to sacrifice a bit on the speed rating of the tires. For me, now just for me mind you, that was a worthwhile tradeoff. The great thing about this particular Mangusta is that nothing prevents the next owner from doing the same thing if desired. Or not. As @J2W says, it’s just a matter of tires and suspension adjustment.
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 7, 2026 · 19:09
@ninavich, the car is currently set about 3 cm higher than original, both front and rear, simply to clear speed bumps without concern while maintaining the correct stance.
On the original setup, the bellhousing could easily scrape, and that is a particularly difficult part to replace. The next owner can set the ride height exactly to his preference.
On the original setup, the bellhousing could easily scrape, and that is a particularly difficult part to replace. The next owner can set the ride height exactly to his preference.
Oct 7, 2026 · 15:47
Isn't she sitting a little high in the rear?
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 7, 2026 · 13:24
@pbf777 well, first always nice to exchange with someone going deep.
I may just share my real life experience with pumps. I have the same pump installed in a racing Pantera as replacement to a Malory. Indeed on paper the Malory provides more fuel but is not regulated. Since I use the Facet I solved minor issues and never had a fuel shortage even in long straits. As a result we decided to install the same Facet pump on tje Mangusta. It was confirmed by the motorist (ex Oreca working on most sophistivated race engines).
The 50 km driven since full restoration were hard driven on road to insurenthat all works perfectly. It confirmed both a fantastic engine and an appropriate pump at least for such conditions.
I may just share my real life experience with pumps. I have the same pump installed in a racing Pantera as replacement to a Malory. Indeed on paper the Malory provides more fuel but is not regulated. Since I use the Facet I solved minor issues and never had a fuel shortage even in long straits. As a result we decided to install the same Facet pump on tje Mangusta. It was confirmed by the motorist (ex Oreca working on most sophistivated race engines).
The 50 km driven since full restoration were hard driven on road to insurenthat all works perfectly. It confirmed both a fantastic engine and an appropriate pump at least for such conditions.
gabrielbodnariuc
Bid
Oct 7, 2026 · 07:19
Bid in the amount of $107,000
Oct 6, 2026 · 23:03
Not to badger the issue but, and solely as an attempted aid to someone in the future should an issue arise:
If this is the pump unit I'm thinking of, yes, it does have a "maximum" flow rating of that which you suggest, but I believe this is probably better defined as a "free-flow", or under "no pressure" resistance scenarios (either inlet or outlet). But this claimed "rated" flow capability drops by approximately 20% at only 2 P.S.I. (outlet), which is also insufficient for this series of carburetors as they require 5-7 P.S.I. for proper flow sums through and function of their needle & seat affair. The nervous consideration is that though the statement is made in their advertising that the "maximum pressure" deemed acceptable is 6 to 8 P.S.I., the manufacture makes no additional delivery volume claims at such higher working pressures. And it is generally realized with devices such as these, that as the pumping resistance (pressure) increases, the volume delivery decreases, often quite significantly!
This is a subject that we in our business has been involved with for in excess of 40 years, and we have come to realize the truth in the adage that: "the devil is in the details", that'll bite you!
Again, this topic is likely unimportant in this instance, and I've only brought this forth in the rare possibility that it might under certain circumstances "rear it's ugly head" and maybe this posting might be of aid to someone.
It's a great car! Wish I had a place to park it, as I've always loved these since they first hit the market! Wish you the best!
If this is the pump unit I'm thinking of, yes, it does have a "maximum" flow rating of that which you suggest, but I believe this is probably better defined as a "free-flow", or under "no pressure" resistance scenarios (either inlet or outlet). But this claimed "rated" flow capability drops by approximately 20% at only 2 P.S.I. (outlet), which is also insufficient for this series of carburetors as they require 5-7 P.S.I. for proper flow sums through and function of their needle & seat affair. The nervous consideration is that though the statement is made in their advertising that the "maximum pressure" deemed acceptable is 6 to 8 P.S.I., the manufacture makes no additional delivery volume claims at such higher working pressures. And it is generally realized with devices such as these, that as the pumping resistance (pressure) increases, the volume delivery decreases, often quite significantly!
This is a subject that we in our business has been involved with for in excess of 40 years, and we have come to realize the truth in the adage that: "the devil is in the details", that'll bite you!
Again, this topic is likely unimportant in this instance, and I've only brought this forth in the rare possibility that it might under certain circumstances "rear it's ugly head" and maybe this posting might be of aid to someone.
It's a great car! Wish I had a place to park it, as I've always loved these since they first hit the market! Wish you the best!
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 6, 2026 · 21:07
@pbf777 Good observation, and this was actually considered carefully when the fuel system was specified during the restoration.
The car uses a low-pressure Facet pump rated at approximately 170 L/h, feeding through -6 PTFE fuel lines with an internal diameter of about 8.2 mm. Just as importantly, the pump is gravity-fed from the tank — it is not being asked to lift fuel, but simply to push it forward — which is the correct installation principle for this type of pump.
For the intended road use of the Mangusta, this setup provides the required fuel delivery, including full-throttle acceleration. The -6 plumbing itself certainly isn't the restriction.
Where I would agree with you is sustained competition use. If the car were going to spend long periods on a circuit at or near maximum engine load, we would fit a higher-capacity pump to provide a larger reserve. But this is a road-going Mangusta, not an endurance race car, and the objective was a properly engineered, reliable low-pressure carbureted fuel system rather than simply fitting the largest pump available.
So yes — pump capacity, line size, pump position and intended duty cycle were all considered as part of the restoration.
The car uses a low-pressure Facet pump rated at approximately 170 L/h, feeding through -6 PTFE fuel lines with an internal diameter of about 8.2 mm. Just as importantly, the pump is gravity-fed from the tank — it is not being asked to lift fuel, but simply to push it forward — which is the correct installation principle for this type of pump.
For the intended road use of the Mangusta, this setup provides the required fuel delivery, including full-throttle acceleration. The -6 plumbing itself certainly isn't the restriction.
Where I would agree with you is sustained competition use. If the car were going to spend long periods on a circuit at or near maximum engine load, we would fit a higher-capacity pump to provide a larger reserve. But this is a road-going Mangusta, not an endurance race car, and the objective was a properly engineered, reliable low-pressure carbureted fuel system rather than simply fitting the largest pump available.
So yes — pump capacity, line size, pump position and intended duty cycle were all considered as part of the restoration.
Oct 6, 2026 · 17:24
Though a complete examination and therefore perhaps a better evaluation of the fuel delivery system as executed here is not provided for within the photos presented, but just based on that of photo #50 and what appears to be a "Faucet Cylindrical" fuel pump, and understanding their pumping capacities and then of the plumbing to and from being consistent with such, I'd be doubtful of whether this could keep-up with the fuel flow requirements of 'this' engine "at-full-song" coupled with any sort of significant distance?
But then, who's actually going to be testing the "top-end" capabilities of this vehicle anyway, and what is there is probably more than enough for "Cars & Coffee" visits!
Beautiful car, and this 'minor' quibble shouldn't alter anyone's wish to own it!
GLWTA!
But then, who's actually going to be testing the "top-end" capabilities of this vehicle anyway, and what is there is probably more than enough for "Cars & Coffee" visits!
Beautiful car, and this 'minor' quibble shouldn't alter anyone's wish to own it!
GLWTA!
Oct 5, 2026 · 20:05
A lovely, lovely example of tasteful and strategic updates that make this the Mangusta Alejandro de Tomaso surely wanted it to be. A little more development time and a little more funding from his wife’s family at Rowan Controls it might have happened.
I remember this car (Chassis No 8MA1276) when it was auctioned in January by Artcurial Motorcars in Paris. It was eye-catching then, with its aluminum-block V8 and ceramic exhaust producing a potent 431 bhp. Just as important are the less glamorous improvements that make driving it a joy rather than an exercise: added acoustic insulation and modern A/C.
I’ve driven a Mangusta before, and basic examples can be beasts with great fun for a brief jaunt, but tiring in summer heat. This example clearly addresses those shortcomings while adding a serious power-to-weight ratio.
Considering that fewer than 250 of the 401 Mangustas produced are believed to survive today, these are genuinely rare beauties. This one shows just how good the Mangusta could have been with a little more development.
I remember this car (Chassis No 8MA1276) when it was auctioned in January by Artcurial Motorcars in Paris. It was eye-catching then, with its aluminum-block V8 and ceramic exhaust producing a potent 431 bhp. Just as important are the less glamorous improvements that make driving it a joy rather than an exercise: added acoustic insulation and modern A/C.
I’ve driven a Mangusta before, and basic examples can be beasts with great fun for a brief jaunt, but tiring in summer heat. This example clearly addresses those shortcomings while adding a serious power-to-weight ratio.
Considering that fewer than 250 of the 401 Mangustas produced are believed to survive today, these are genuinely rare beauties. This one shows just how good the Mangusta could have been with a little more development.
Oct 5, 2026 · 20:04
A lovely, lovely example of tasteful and strategic updates that make this the Mangusta Alejandro de Tomaso surely wanted it to be. A little more development time and a little more funding from his wife’s family at Rowan Controls it might have happened.
I remember this example when it was auctioned in January by Artcurial Motorcars in Paris. It was eye-catching then, with its aluminum-block V8 and ceramic exhaust producing a potent 431 bhp. Just as important are the less glamorous improvements that make driving it a joy rather than an exercise: added acoustic insulation and modern A/C.
I’ve driven a Mangusta before, and basic examples can be beasts with great fun for a brief jaunt, but tiring in summer heat. This example clearly addresses those shortcomings while adding a serious power-to-weight ratio.
Considering that fewer than 250 of the 401 Mangustas produced are believed to survive today, these are genuinely rare beauties. This one shows just how good the Mangusta could have been with a little more development.
I remember this example when it was auctioned in January by Artcurial Motorcars in Paris. It was eye-catching then, with its aluminum-block V8 and ceramic exhaust producing a potent 431 bhp. Just as important are the less glamorous improvements that make driving it a joy rather than an exercise: added acoustic insulation and modern A/C.
I’ve driven a Mangusta before, and basic examples can be beasts with great fun for a brief jaunt, but tiring in summer heat. This example clearly addresses those shortcomings while adding a serious power-to-weight ratio.
Considering that fewer than 250 of the 401 Mangustas produced are believed to survive today, these are genuinely rare beauties. This one shows just how good the Mangusta could have been with a little more development.
Oct 5, 2026 · 16:46
t's not merely “an old exotic.” It's one of those cars where the story, the design, the mechanical oddities, and the rarity all reinforce each other.
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 5, 2026 · 16:42
@TopGun32 The complete restoration was an opportunity to improve the original suspension setup. The car now has properly engineered, adjustable suspension, set up not only for the car’s performance but also to be adjustable depending on rads and tires. Wheels wheel are fully original, correct size rims, carefully inspected and refinished during the restoration.
Given the very small choice of suitable tyres available today for these dimensions, I chose what I considered the best compromise: a high-end performance tyre with a period-correct appearance.
The original specification was 185 HR15 at the front and 225 HR15 at the rear. The current setup is 205/70 R15 front and 255/60 R15 rear. Although the modern rear tyre has a lower overall diameter than the original 225 HR15, the suspension ride height and rake were adjusted accordingly, so the stance of the car is not dictated simply by the tyre diameter.
And congratulations on having bought one new in 1970 — that must have been quite an experience at the time. Do you still own the car?
Given the very small choice of suitable tyres available today for these dimensions, I chose what I considered the best compromise: a high-end performance tyre with a period-correct appearance.
The original specification was 185 HR15 at the front and 225 HR15 at the rear. The current setup is 205/70 R15 front and 255/60 R15 rear. Although the modern rear tyre has a lower overall diameter than the original 225 HR15, the suspension ride height and rake were adjusted accordingly, so the stance of the car is not dictated simply by the tyre diameter.
And congratulations on having bought one new in 1970 — that must have been quite an experience at the time. Do you still own the car?
Oct 5, 2026 · 16:32
@ClaudeBaddly one of the most beautiful cars ever made. But the electric orange from the 60s / 70s was heinous!!
Oct 5, 2026 · 13:12
I purchased a new one from British Motors in San Francisco in 1970 red/black.
This car has the wrong wheels on the rear. It is supposed to have smaller ones in front (correct) and bigger ones at the rear. (wrong) That is why the rear wheel-well looks as it does. Restoration otherwise looks good. The suspension was origionally very weak but this issue seems to be fixed.
This car has the wrong wheels on the rear. It is supposed to have smaller ones in front (correct) and bigger ones at the rear. (wrong) That is why the rear wheel-well looks as it does. Restoration otherwise looks good. The suspension was origionally very weak but this issue seems to be fixed.
Oct 5, 2026 · 00:12
You see a Mangusta in your rearview, only one thing you can do. Pull over and get out of it's way! Brutally beautiful and there simply isn't a bad color on this car.
Oct 4, 2026 · 01:19
@J2W
That is very true.
Just today I was with a customer in my shop helping him work on his car as we do on Saturdays.
I mentioned that very thing before and also today, that no one realizes just how much conversation and planning, re planning, and trial and error goes into a project with a lot of modification.
Almost everything is modification and creation.
I would say at least 25% of the time we have spent is me helping to figure out what to do and how to do it.
At least he is a capable worker, and a good student.
If course he is like 60 years old....
@rmessner BID!
That is very true.
Just today I was with a customer in my shop helping him work on his car as we do on Saturdays.
I mentioned that very thing before and also today, that no one realizes just how much conversation and planning, re planning, and trial and error goes into a project with a lot of modification.
Almost everything is modification and creation.
I would say at least 25% of the time we have spent is me helping to figure out what to do and how to do it.
At least he is a capable worker, and a good student.
If course he is like 60 years old....
@rmessner BID!
Oct 3, 2026 · 23:31
Here I sit with another car I purchased sitting in Paris waiting for a second car to fill the container. What to do, what to do??
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 3, 2026 · 21:45
@FAO @EnThousiastGarage
Thank you — you raise several points that are too often underestimated.
A truly meticulous, no-compromise restoration is infinitely more complex than it may appear from the finished car. It takes thousands of hours, countless decisions, corrections and re-corrections to arrive at something that ultimately looks effortless.
What I particularly appreciate here is that the same level of care extends to the restoration records themselves. The invoices read almost like the open notebooks of a master craftsman: each intervention recorded, each difficulty encountered, each technical choice explained — sometimes down to details such as the Formula 1-grade ceramic treatment chosen for the exhaust system.
One of the guiding ideas behind the restoration was rather simple: what might a Mangusta have been if De Tomaso had possessed the financial resources to finish the cars exactly as he would have wished?
Look, for instance, at the fit and alignment of the body panels. These are small things individually, but together they completely change the impression of the car.
And to understand why the Mangusta mattered so much, one also has to return to the world into which it appeared. It was a far more conservative automotive landscape: Ferrari’s great road-going V12s were still front-engined, while here came this extraordinarily low, mid-engined machine, with a competition-inspired backbone chassis, an American Ford V8 behind the driver, and Giugiaro clothing it in one of his most dramatic shapes.
Seen in that context, the Mangusta was not simply exotic. It must have looked almost like something from the future.
Thank you — you raise several points that are too often underestimated.
A truly meticulous, no-compromise restoration is infinitely more complex than it may appear from the finished car. It takes thousands of hours, countless decisions, corrections and re-corrections to arrive at something that ultimately looks effortless.
What I particularly appreciate here is that the same level of care extends to the restoration records themselves. The invoices read almost like the open notebooks of a master craftsman: each intervention recorded, each difficulty encountered, each technical choice explained — sometimes down to details such as the Formula 1-grade ceramic treatment chosen for the exhaust system.
One of the guiding ideas behind the restoration was rather simple: what might a Mangusta have been if De Tomaso had possessed the financial resources to finish the cars exactly as he would have wished?
Look, for instance, at the fit and alignment of the body panels. These are small things individually, but together they completely change the impression of the car.
And to understand why the Mangusta mattered so much, one also has to return to the world into which it appeared. It was a far more conservative automotive landscape: Ferrari’s great road-going V12s were still front-engined, while here came this extraordinarily low, mid-engined machine, with a competition-inspired backbone chassis, an American Ford V8 behind the driver, and Giugiaro clothing it in one of his most dramatic shapes.
Seen in that context, the Mangusta was not simply exotic. It must have looked almost like something from the future.
Oct 3, 2026 · 18:01
@TheEnthusiastGarage
Yes, it's a worth piece for sure.
The logistics are easier to confirm cost, rather than trying to figure the cost of a total proper re-ferb, and of course a proper place and persons to do the actual work, which has so many variables, twists and turns, make this just a contest for a new care-taker.
@J2W
Yeah, the English language is interesting how just moving a word around or the addition or deletion of a comma can change one's concept/perception of just about anything.
Also as you stated, the history, mix of different entities that had hands on, and complicated events make something like this a real treasure.
Especially with the desirable headlight placement.
I've had a rather unique color Pantera, and wish I still had it.
But Panteras you can actually shop around for.
Not something like this obviously.
Yes, it's a worth piece for sure.
The logistics are easier to confirm cost, rather than trying to figure the cost of a total proper re-ferb, and of course a proper place and persons to do the actual work, which has so many variables, twists and turns, make this just a contest for a new care-taker.
@J2W
Yeah, the English language is interesting how just moving a word around or the addition or deletion of a comma can change one's concept/perception of just about anything.
Also as you stated, the history, mix of different entities that had hands on, and complicated events make something like this a real treasure.
Especially with the desirable headlight placement.
I've had a rather unique color Pantera, and wish I still had it.
But Panteras you can actually shop around for.
Not something like this obviously.
Oct 3, 2026 · 16:32
Absolutely incredible car in a super compelling hue. Would love to see this Giugiaro masterpiece parked up between my Esprit S4S and Alfa 4C. Just imported a Fiat Coupe and import costs and tariffs were pretty shocking. This one has me genuinely thinking on the logistics. Stunning car and presentation.
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 3, 2026 · 15:34
@Hoppy18 @FAO What fascinates me is how much automotive history comes together in the Mangusta: a mid-mounted Ford V8, a backbone chassis rooted in the Shelby–De Tomaso P70 racing project, and Giugiaro’s extraordinary design—the same talent behind the Miura, the Ghibli and, later, the Lotus Esprit.
There’s that same appeal of European design paired with American V8 power that Shelby captured so well, but here in a distinctly Italian, mid-engined interpretation. Unveiled in 1966, it belongs to that formative moment when the modern supercar was taking shape.
For me, that makes a Mangusta a wonderful addition to a collection: a car you can admire for its shape and enjoy just as much for the story behind it.
There’s that same appeal of European design paired with American V8 power that Shelby captured so well, but here in a distinctly Italian, mid-engined interpretation. Unveiled in 1966, it belongs to that formative moment when the modern supercar was taking shape.
For me, that makes a Mangusta a wonderful addition to a collection: a car you can admire for its shape and enjoy just as much for the story behind it.
Oct 3, 2026 · 13:23
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 3, 2026 · 08:51
@bigchachu Happy to clarify, and thank you for asking! “Not confirmed as original” is the distinction I would make, rather than “confirmed not original.”
I can personally confirm that the engine supplied with the car was installed when I bought it in 2014. It is a 1968 Ford 302 block with 289-specification internals, consistent with European Mangusta specifications.
As @x4158 helpfully explains, establishing factory originality is difficult and potentially controversial.
Beyond that question, 8MA1276 brings together a particularly compelling combination: rare European specification (approx. 150 cars), an exceptionally comprehensive history, original factory documentation, and an extensive restoration supported by over €200,000 in invoices—plus the engine fitted when I acquired it. I believe the documented quality and depth of the work make this an exceptional Mangusta package. Similar cars with unproven ownership history or not concours conditions reached over 400K USD recently.
Thank you both for taking such a thoughtful interest in the car!
I can personally confirm that the engine supplied with the car was installed when I bought it in 2014. It is a 1968 Ford 302 block with 289-specification internals, consistent with European Mangusta specifications.
As @x4158 helpfully explains, establishing factory originality is difficult and potentially controversial.
Beyond that question, 8MA1276 brings together a particularly compelling combination: rare European specification (approx. 150 cars), an exceptionally comprehensive history, original factory documentation, and an extensive restoration supported by over €200,000 in invoices—plus the engine fitted when I acquired it. I believe the documented quality and depth of the work make this an exceptional Mangusta package. Similar cars with unproven ownership history or not concours conditions reached over 400K USD recently.
Thank you both for taking such a thoughtful interest in the car!
Oct 2, 2026 · 23:40
@tripleblack, you are right about the pop-up headlight cars. The only reason the original 4 headlight Mangusta got built in the first place was that DeTomaso got a one-time exemption from the US safety standards. The exemption was valid only through 1969. Starting in 1970 Mangustas bound for the US had to start to comply with the US regs in several areas. One was the headlight height. DeTomaso decided on the pop-up arrangement using only two, larger diameter sealed beams. There wasn't time or money enough to build a motor actuated system, so they cobbled together a cable arrangement that raised the lamp housings by manually yanking on a lever in the cabin. It was similar to the headlight system on the Opel GT, only it pivoted the other way. It had a negative effect on the look of the car and I know of several pop-up cars that were converted back to the original Giugiaro design.
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:26
Sorry if I’m "being obtuse"
"That" brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
"That" brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:25
Sorry if I’m "being obtuse"
"That" brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
(And merci for the cheers on the SLR.)
"That" brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
(And merci for the cheers on the SLR.)
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:22
Sorry if I’m being obtuse
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
(And merci for the cheers on the SLR.)
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
(And merci for the cheers on the SLR.)
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:18
Sorry if I’m being obtuse
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Tastes :)
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:17
Sorry if I’m being obtuse
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see that you're lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:16
Sorry if I’m being obtuse
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see you lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: I see you lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:15
Sorry if I’m being obtuse
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: Lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
That comment brings to mind 1 of my 3 all-time favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: Lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
Oct 2, 2026 · 22:15
Sorry if I’m being obtuse
Tthat brings to mind 1 of my all-time 3 favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: Lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
Tthat brings to mind 1 of my all-time 3 favourite movies ...Shawshank Redemption!
@FAO: Cheers back on your BaTucation!
@bosshoss3406pack: Lusting after both a Pantera and a '69 Mach 1 ...you go "both ways" ...a Man of International Mystery :)
Oct 2, 2026 · 20:41
@Hoppy18
Truth Be Told, I lusted after the Pantera just as much as the '69 Mustang Mach 1 which was on the back cover of alternating issues of the Car Magazines!
Truth Be Told, I lusted after the Pantera just as much as the '69 Mustang Mach 1 which was on the back cover of alternating issues of the Car Magazines!
Oct 2, 2026 · 19:27
@J2W Sorry if I'm being obtuse - so it's not the original engine but a period correct 302, right?
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 2, 2026 · 16:31
Just received a quote for transport from Paris, France to Stamford CT: 5K USD
Oct 2, 2026 · 15:42
It is impossible to say for certain if a Mangusta engine is original as they were not serialized, it is however possible to say for certain if it is NOT original.
Block should NOT be serialized
Casting dates should be correct
It should have the threaded clutch boss on the block (even though unused)
If intake manifold is original it should have engine # stamped and a 2 circle logo of some sort next to # (which this one seems to have)
There should also be an aluminum tag on one of the carburetor post (often lost)
and probably a few other items
As I understand, one of the hallmarks of the German completed Mangustas was the ebrake, instead of the "Umbrella Handle" they used the ebake mechanism from a Mercedes Pagoda floor mounted next to the driver (which this one has)
GLWTA on this amazing Goose
Block should NOT be serialized
Casting dates should be correct
It should have the threaded clutch boss on the block (even though unused)
If intake manifold is original it should have engine # stamped and a 2 circle logo of some sort next to # (which this one seems to have)
There should also be an aluminum tag on one of the carburetor post (often lost)
and probably a few other items
As I understand, one of the hallmarks of the German completed Mangustas was the ebrake, instead of the "Umbrella Handle" they used the ebake mechanism from a Mercedes Pagoda floor mounted next to the driver (which this one has)
GLWTA on this amazing Goose
Oct 2, 2026 · 15:41
It is impossible to say for certain if a Mangusta engine is original as they were not serialized, it is however possible to say for certain if it is NOT original.
Block should NOT be serialized
Casting dates should be correct
It should have the threaded clutch boss on the block (even though unused)
If intake manifold is original it should have engine # stamped and a 2 circle logo of some sort next to # (which this one seems to have)
There should also be an aluminum tag on one of the carburetor post (often lost)
and probably a few other items
As I understand, one of the hallmarks of the German completed Mangustas was the ebrake, instead of the "Umbrella Handle" they used the ebake mechanism from a Mercedes Pagoda floor mounted next to the driver
Block should NOT be serialized
Casting dates should be correct
It should have the threaded clutch boss on the block (even though unused)
If intake manifold is original it should have engine # stamped and a 2 circle logo of some sort next to # (which this one seems to have)
There should also be an aluminum tag on one of the carburetor post (often lost)
and probably a few other items
As I understand, one of the hallmarks of the German completed Mangustas was the ebrake, instead of the "Umbrella Handle" they used the ebake mechanism from a Mercedes Pagoda floor mounted next to the driver
Oct 2, 2026 · 15:39
It is impossible to say for certain if a Mangusta engine is original as they were not serialized, it is however possible to say for certain if it is NOT original.
Block should NOT be serialized
Casting dates should be correct
It should have the threaded clutch boss on the block (even though unused)
If intake manifold is original it should have engine # stamped and a 2 circle logo of some sort next to # (which this one seems to have)
There should also be an aluminum tag on one of the carburetor post (often lost)
and probably a few other items
As I understand, one of the hallmarks of the German completed Mangustas was the ebrake, instead of the :Umbrella Handle) they used the ebake mechanism from a Mercedes Pagoda floor mounted next to the driver
Block should NOT be serialized
Casting dates should be correct
It should have the threaded clutch boss on the block (even though unused)
If intake manifold is original it should have engine # stamped and a 2 circle logo of some sort next to # (which this one seems to have)
There should also be an aluminum tag on one of the carburetor post (often lost)
and probably a few other items
As I understand, one of the hallmarks of the German completed Mangustas was the ebrake, instead of the :Umbrella Handle) they used the ebake mechanism from a Mercedes Pagoda floor mounted next to the driver
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 2, 2026 · 15:03
@bigchachu the car has been driven only 50K km since full restoration as I have other family projects
The original engin associated is a 1968 302ci block with 289ci internals typical for a European model Mangusta
The original engin associated is a 1968 302ci block with 289ci internals typical for a European model Mangusta
Oct 2, 2026 · 14:33
@Hoppy18
Chrysler was involved with Lamborghini a while back, in '87.
That's where they got the "Cab Forward" design.
Check out the Portofino, in the "Complete Book of Lamborghini" by Pete Lyons.
Also there in that publication, is a black Espada, which I owned and rescued, restored and sold to a fellow in Maine. Note the Mustang Mach 1 spoiler I put on it as I did with many, and the Nori modular wheels.
I had a copper Pantera back in '75 which I traded a '73 XJ12 in for.
Then traded the Pantera for my first Espada in '76.
The early Lambos were all DOHC Hemis, so these exotics have always been part of my life since.
I still have a shop full of Hemis, Jag V12's and a BMW V12 etc.
But the Mangusta is probably the ony one I never had.
Too late now as they have finally gotten their well deserved value!
Chrysler was involved with Lamborghini a while back, in '87.
That's where they got the "Cab Forward" design.
Check out the Portofino, in the "Complete Book of Lamborghini" by Pete Lyons.
Also there in that publication, is a black Espada, which I owned and rescued, restored and sold to a fellow in Maine. Note the Mustang Mach 1 spoiler I put on it as I did with many, and the Nori modular wheels.
I had a copper Pantera back in '75 which I traded a '73 XJ12 in for.
Then traded the Pantera for my first Espada in '76.
The early Lambos were all DOHC Hemis, so these exotics have always been part of my life since.
I still have a shop full of Hemis, Jag V12's and a BMW V12 etc.
But the Mangusta is probably the ony one I never had.
Too late now as they have finally gotten their well deserved value!
Oct 2, 2026 · 14:30
@Hoppy18
Chrysler was involved with Lamborghini a while back, in '87.
That's where they got the "Cab Forward" design.
Check out the Portofino, in the "Complete Book of Lamborghini" by Pete Lyons.
Also there is a black Espada, which I owned and rescued, restored and sold to a fellow in Maine. Note the Mustang Mach 1 spoiler I put on it as I did with many, and the Nori modular wheels.
I had a copper Pantera back in '75 which I traded a '73 XJ12 in for.
Then traded the Pantera for my first Espada in '76.
The early Lambos were all DOHC Hemis, so these exotics have always been part of my life since.
I still have a shop full of Hemis, Jag V12's and a BMW V12 etc.
But the Mangusta is probably the ony one I never had.
Too late now as they have finally gotten their well deserved value!
Chrysler was involved with Lamborghini a while back, in '87.
That's where they got the "Cab Forward" design.
Check out the Portofino, in the "Complete Book of Lamborghini" by Pete Lyons.
Also there is a black Espada, which I owned and rescued, restored and sold to a fellow in Maine. Note the Mustang Mach 1 spoiler I put on it as I did with many, and the Nori modular wheels.
I had a copper Pantera back in '75 which I traded a '73 XJ12 in for.
Then traded the Pantera for my first Espada in '76.
The early Lambos were all DOHC Hemis, so these exotics have always been part of my life since.
I still have a shop full of Hemis, Jag V12's and a BMW V12 etc.
But the Mangusta is probably the ony one I never had.
Too late now as they have finally gotten their well deserved value!
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 2, 2026 · 13:46
@DenisC @YaRight @Nanavich Thank you for the information regarding the last 50 build. It is new to me although I thought I knew already al lot about these cars. Based on telegram exchanges between the second owenr and the factory, #1276 was build in Febrauary 1971. Factory answered simply 1971 but when looking closely at the crossed-out handwritten text on a telegram exchanged between the 2nd owner and the factory, the word "February" clearly appears. In addition, the document recording the quit extensive maintenance carried out at the factory on January 24 1972 shows that the car had already been assembled by then, otherwise it could not have undergone such comprehensive service
Oct 2, 2026 · 09:48
@YaRight: AFAIK, the retractable lights were not a later spec but a quick workaround to meet some legislation's minimum headlight height requirement.
IIRC, all Euro Mangustas had the four-light front as per the original Giugiaro design.
IIRC, all Euro Mangustas had the four-light front as per the original Giugiaro design.
Oct 2, 2026 · 03:23
@DenisC very interesting, thank you. This may answer another question I had. There was a 1970 that was up here with retractable headlights. This one is a 1971 and doesn't have those. Might this one have been made before that one? Just curious as to why this one, a later model year, has the earlier front end.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Oct 2, 2026 · 02:43
A couple of quick Qs:
1. Can you pls verify that the removed engine is in fact the original engine associated with 8MA1276, rather than simply a period-correct 302
2. Why has the car barely been driven since the (expensive) restoration?
1. Can you pls verify that the removed engine is in fact the original engine associated with 8MA1276, rather than simply a period-correct 302
2. Why has the car barely been driven since the (expensive) restoration?
Oct 2, 2026 · 02:29
@YaRight @Ninavich Although there seems to be an overlap between Mangusta and Pantera production, there really was not. The Mangusta was produced at Ghia alongside the Ghibli and the Pantera early production was done at Vignale. There were straglers on Mangusta production line at the end of 1970. The last 55 or so cars (many incomplete) (8MA1276 is one of these) were sold and completed by the German distibutor to fund the Pantera start-up. p.s. There are some Mangusta that completed and registered as late as 1972.
WolfBarnato
Bid
Oct 2, 2026 · 01:16
Bid in the amount of $101,971
Oct 1, 2026 · 21:35
Yes, also thanks for the importation info.
I have used WCShipping before.
My experience with them was excellent.
I have used WCShipping before.
My experience with them was excellent.
Oct 1, 2026 · 17:31
Thanks for the link!
J2W (The Seller)
Oct 1, 2026 · 15:46
@bigchachu I confirm the 10% importation into the USA. Here is the link and I have a separate confirmation from the broker: https://www.wcshipping.com/blog/what-duties-do-i-pay-today-on-classic-car-imports
Oct 1, 2026 · 15:40
These are just so awesome.
Having seen one some 40 odd years ago in a customer's garage in GA when i was there to pick up a VIP Espada, is still fresh in my mind.
Having seen one some 40 odd years ago in a customer's garage in GA when i was there to pick up a VIP Espada, is still fresh in my mind.
Oct 1, 2026 · 15:05
@J2W Sure, I found it online - CBP ruling, NY N352283, dated August 15, 2025. I also misspoke - it was a Ferrari 348 and not a 328.
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 30, 2026 · 22:08
@bigchachu Thank you for the clarification. Could you please share the CBP ruling number or link for the Ferrari 328? In parallel, I will seek written assessments from the two firms I mentioned, covering this Mangusta’s classification and the tariff rules applicable at entry. I will report back
Sep 29, 2026 · 11:59
Who can resist a beautiful Italian exotic with an American engine and fine transmission? GLWTA!
Sep 29, 2026 · 09:43
@J2W Sorry, certainly not trying to derail an auction for such a great car! Below is a summary of both conversations, and I was told there was a recent CBP ruling on a Ferrari 328 that codified the below. As always, others should do their own diligence and perhaps attempt to navigate the exemption route you outlined. - Normal HTS 8703 duty: 2.5%
- Because it's over 25 years old, it is exempt from the additional 25% Section 232 auto tariff under 9903.94.04. - BUT the EU reciprocal-tariff rules still apply. For EU goods whose normal duty is below 15%, an additional duty brings the aggregate tariff to 15%.
- Because it's over 25 years old, it is exempt from the additional 25% Section 232 auto tariff under 9903.94.04. - BUT the EU reciprocal-tariff rules still apply. For EU goods whose normal duty is below 15%, an additional duty brings the aggregate tariff to 15%.
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 29, 2026 · 06:42
@bigchachu why HTSUS 9903.94.04 would not apply to a 1971 EU-origin passenger vehicle. CBP expressly provides a 0% Section 232 rate for vehicles manufactured at least 25 years before the year of entry. Since July 24, 2026, HTSUS 9903.05.39 appears to bring EU goods with a Column 1 rate below 10% to a combined 10%, which would suggest a 10% total duty maximum. See West Coast Shipping and Allied Customs Brokerage. Meeks, Sheppard, Leo and Pillsbury seem to have obtained exemptions for some cars
Sep 28, 2026 · 20:26
As a follow-up to my earlier comment, I spoke with 2 customs brokers today and both contend all Euro imports, regardless of age, are now subject to a 15% tax.
Sep 28, 2026 · 15:44
what mammal willingly terrorizes, and can defeat, a Cobra?
Sep 28, 2026 · 14:01
"Mangoooosta!" Even uttering the car's name invokes chills! GLWTA!!!!
Sep 28, 2026 · 07:04
@J2W
Interpretation:
“The De Tomaso Mangusta’s suspension geometry offers surgical precision on smooth surfaces thanks to solutions derived from racing. He also noted that the dynamic handling was influenced by the very pronounced weight distribution over the rear axle, varying from 56% to over 60% depending on the version. Finally, the vehicle’s stability at speeds reaching 250 km/h remained remarkable in a straight line, while describing the overall mid-rear engine architecture as an appealing experiment.”
Interpretation:
“The De Tomaso Mangusta’s suspension geometry offers surgical precision on smooth surfaces thanks to solutions derived from racing. He also noted that the dynamic handling was influenced by the very pronounced weight distribution over the rear axle, varying from 56% to over 60% depending on the version. Finally, the vehicle’s stability at speeds reaching 250 km/h remained remarkable in a straight line, while describing the overall mid-rear engine architecture as an appealing experiment.”
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 28, 2026 · 03:19
@theOMDude and sorry the article was first published in Autocar, so you may find it in English
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 28, 2026 · 03:06
@theOMDude here is an extract from the article originaly published in French: "la géométrie des suspensions de la De Tomaso Mangusta offre une précision chirurgicale sur chaussée lisse grâce à des solutions dérivées de la course. Il a également noté que le comportement dynamique était influencé par la répartition des masses très marquée sur l'essieu arrière, variant de 56 % à plus de 60 % selon les versions. Enfin, la stabilité du véhicule à des vitesses atteignant 250 km/h demeurait remarquable en ligne droite, tout en qualifiant l'architecture générale de moteur central-arrière de tentative séduisante
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 28, 2026 · 01:08
@phavriluk 85KG shaved in the right place
Sep 28, 2026 · 00:53
@J2W. Was that the Road & Track Road Test? I believe that was the first magazine road test to publish a skidpad G-force stat.
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 28, 2026 · 00:46
@theOMDude Indeed with original set up the bell housing is stressed! but here the car seats high enough to roll over bumps without concern
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 28, 2026 · 00:28
@jhonnyb11 yes aluminium engine (yet conform to original) shaves weight (-85kg) all togehter but most importantly it greatly improved front/rear weight balance, one issue discussed when car was launched. The Mangusta is one the most underated car for its handling. Just need the proper driver (see Paul Frere's review). Aluminium also helps cooling
Sep 28, 2026 · 00:22
To the next custodian (assuming it meets reserve), my dad insured his as a “Ford Mangusta.” I’m not sure how that worked out when it got T-boned by some distracted driver in a parking lot. These are VERY low cars.
J2W (The Seller)
Sep 27, 2026 · 23:38
@bigchachu For a 1971 Mangusta, the additional Section 232 automotive tariff does not apply: vehicles over 25 years old are expressly exempt under HTSUS 9903.94.04. More interestingly, a rare, historically significant car may qualify for duty-free importation under HTSUS 9705.10.00. European-spec Mangusta is one of approximately 150 produced, with its original engine and complete documented history from factory. Worth exploring this classification with a US customs broker and obtaining a CBP binding ruling.
Sep 27, 2026 · 18:50
Q for someone who has actually imported a car from the EU recently - is the rate on classics up to 12.5% as well or does the legacy 2.5% stand?
Sep 27, 2026 · 16:32
Magnifico!
Sep 27, 2026 · 15:34
Dad’s was Fly Yellow. Sexiest-looking car ever. How does that willowy chassis handle all that power?
Sep 27, 2026 · 12:14
This Resto is just beautiful. All aluminum engine must help handling big time. GL
Sep 27, 2026 · 10:55
@YaRight Yes, production of the two overlapped for less than a year, from late 1970 to mid 1971.
Sep 26, 2026 · 09:03
Since this is a 1971, were they produced concurrently with the Pantera? I thought the Pantera was the successor to the Mangusta? Spectacular build!
Sep 26, 2026 · 04:39
Curiosity question: Any idea how much weight was saved by the engine swap?
rmessner
Bid
Sep 26, 2026 · 04:31
Bid in the amount of $100,000
Sep 26, 2026 · 04:19
WOW!!!! DRIVING DOWN THE CHAMS IN PARIS MUST BE A DELIGHTj
Sep 26, 2026 · 03:05
Love how simple but expressive the front view is - four round lights and a square-ish mesh grille and that's it.
Sep 25, 2026 · 15:50
Tres Bien !!! Beautiful Mangusta! Worth the effort of a foreign purchase and all that entails! GLWTA
jcole
Bid
Sep 25, 2026 · 15:34
Bid in the amount of $25,000
Sep 25, 2026 · 15:05
This burgundy Mangusta is magnifique. What a superb offering. V. cool. GLWTA!
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